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View Comments September 11, 2008 | JoshPerson

I’m so excited right now! These are the types of moments that I absolutely live for. I got my first legitimately offended reader! Total hate mail type situation about my last Ask Josh! I’d be lying to you all if I said I wasn’t at least half hard at all times during our brief email conversation. So here’s what I’ll do. I’ll post the messages we sent each other back and forth and comment on them along the way. I may even give this cunt an actual reason to be offended. Though, I’m pretty sure that last sentence would suffice.

echo said:
i couldn’t tell if you meant the things you said about gay people or if you were joking and making fun of people with those attitudes. or if you really meant it but will say it is a joke if someone asks you. the comment and question from the guy who wanted to come out to his parents was perfectly clear and understandable. and i found it curious that you felt the need to specify the race of the person who asked you that other question. do you have racial attitudes also?

Yes, I’m a racist homophobe. You caught me. I disguise this racism and homophobic behavior by talking about it on a blog, and masking it with humor. There is absolutely no reason to email the person, whose work you stumble across, because you don’t fucking understand it. “Well, I just wanted to email and tell you that I think you’re completely wrong and that racism is still a big deal…” shut the fuck up. You’re clearly using the internet to come across people that you can argue with to give off the illusion that you’re smart, and better than everyone else, which is weird because the only way you come off is as an ugly girl, who couldn’t get a boyfriend and grew up increasingly bitter, and jealous of everyone else’s happiness.

In fact, the only person who has a reason to be offended is the “gay black” gentleman who sent me the question and who I made fun of. Do you want to know his response to my last Ask Josh? “Haha Hilarious!” That was his response. But no, some random white girl was offended. Funny how that works. That’s exactly what I said in my response, by the way.

It goes on…

echo said:
i don’t know you , so i thought i would ask. it’s just that the depressing fact is that more people have these attitudes than one would like to think in these quasi-enlightened times. i just heard that a congressman referred to Obama and his wife as “uppity”. and since i don’t know you, it was hard to tell. it wasn’t that i couldn’t tell you were joking, it was that that often disguises racism as it purports to pass it off as a joke. i get very downhearted about these things. primarily prejudices and magical thinking (belief in god), and then the lack of cleverness and art in people. i keep hoping to find people without the former, and some measure of the latter.

Josh said:
At first I thought you might be legitimately offended… Turns out you’re just lonely and bored.

echo said:
at first i thought you might be a reasonably decent person. turns out you’re just another asshole. i was suspicious of you having these attitudes even though they were cloaked in humor. i almost deleted you, but as i said, i thought i’d ask. perhaps i was misinterpreting. now i see many more flaws that cannot be excused. that was callous and hurtful. not to mention that you don’t seem to get what i’m saying.

Your first solid, and completely legitimate point! I’m an asshole! I’m actually really glad she pointed this out because I’ve worked far too hard for my entire life to get to this level of asshole. So thank you for noticing.

Maybe I don’t get what you’re saying because you’re not really saying anything at all. You’re all over the fucking place in your replies. Then you bring up Obama, and religion for no point at all except to hopefully have one of those topics spark up an anger in me enough to reply and get into some sort of internet debate. I even looked at her groups she’s started on Virb and they were basically argument based. Even when someone agrees with her on a topic she somehow finds a way to argue about it… Yet, I’m the asshole.

In all honesty there have been more replies since the last one, but it’s just more of the same. Apparently I’m stupid, I’m not funny or witty, I’m not awesome, my existence tortures her, and on down the line of “every thing you think you are you really aren’t” type of comebacks.

So what am I going to do about this situation? Well since all she wants to do is argue with everyone I would be a fool to keep playing back at her with my slew of awesomeness and insults. I’ll do what my mother taught me and kill her with kindness. Since she can’t stand my existence it’ll be my job to send her a message every morning that says something like “Hope you’re having a fantastic day my love! xoxoxo”. Or “I just dreamed that we were married last night, I can’t wait till it really happens!” You know, your basic weird, stalker-like harassment, since that’s what any girl I’ve ever talked to says I’m best at.

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  • That Girl
    @Mike way to go dumb ass lol

    @woozychain :)
  • if this woman really is a straight, white woman, then she herself is a homophobic racist in a very backwards sort of way. racism really doesn't involve white people. homosexuality has nothing to do with straight people. by saying anything, it means that YOU indeed see the difference, think they're people who are too different and weak to defend themselves and this strong white woman has to step in and say something for them.

    i know how this feels! i'm 27, but i'm 4'7" tall and 74lbs. my co-workers have always give me nick names like, "little steph, little one, small one" one very good friend of mine calls me "little teapot" (coz i drink lots of tea) another just calls me "little" a girl at my new employer calls me polly for polly pocket. and one day, one of my employers sent out a memo of sorts saying these nicknames were not appropriate, they called me into their office to apologize.

    I WAS SO EMBARRASSED!!!!! and then everyone i worked with thought i had been offended that whole time, when really, i loved it. that company totally singled me out and made me feel different.

    and YES, i know those people mean love when they call me those, but i also get made of all over the place. i am a woman, i dress like a woman, i have GIANT BOOBS that just draws even more attention to my size (its ridiculous), and to make matters worse, i have a partial facial paralysis and an eye twitch from a head trauma. i get called midget, lolly pop kid, asshole children in the mall come up to me and ask me if i'm retarded, they make fun of my twitch. its menacing sometimes because they get in my face, are only 12 and are WAY taller than me.

    AND I'M 27!!

    but i ignore them, i go home and i have tons of friends who love me, support me and have provided me a life to let me be the unique individual that i am.

    and yes, what josh said was rude and snarky, but christ! the kid emailed him knowing he was no oprah! he KNEW what kind of response he would get and i doubt the kid who emailed him was even black or gay!

    and i really hate when people bring up obama. i REALLY hate it. so many people are fucking SHEEP when it comes to politics and pop culture. anyone can bring up obama. dig a little deeper honey and find an example that really shows your so-called commitment to human rights.

    christ.

    people just piss me off.

    no offense josh, i didn't find THIS particular post funny, but i wasn't OFFENDED. it's not worth my time or energy coz hating on black homosexuals is cliche and everyone knows it, even black gays!

    this woman needs to take up knitting.

    here sweetie. here are some youtube links, you need a fucking hobby.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwwIyoxNu8g
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEGsf99ep1k
  • woozychain
    hahahaha
  • woozychain
    "that girl"

    hey what's up. good to see ya around.
  • heshta
    ha ha made you look! ahahahahahahaa i lied! =P

    p.s. echo is prejudice against magical thinkers. crap... where the eff did i park my unicorn?
  • You did? I didn't see it...
  • loooool well played sir, well played.
  • Wow, I realized I'm completely retarded. I thought "That Girl" meant you were the girl in the hate mail (echo). Haha, so, um, disregard my comment. :)
  • You go from first person to third person in a matter of two sentences. So which is it? At least you used capitalization this time.

    It's not that people can't take jokes or have fun. If that were the case, we wouldn't read this blog. It's just that you're a douche.
  • heshta
    i tweeted my comment
  • That Girl
    Why does everything have to be so serious. I found the humor in the gay blog, and all your blogs for that matter. Your right, she likes to stir the pot and argue at all times.
  • woozychain
    i had a long conversation with echo once.

    never met anyone like her... she called you all those names, and completely judged your blog, yet she told me she completely hated me and everyone like me simply because i believed there was a God.

    funny how people can stand on a high horse and point fingers but cannot see within.

    utterly one of the most depraved people i've had the dissatisfaction of conversing with.

    nice rebuttal
  • moo
    Josh, you are a mean bastard! And having been someone who has disgusted her enough to no longer be friends, I know where you're coming from with this.
    You won't have heard the last of it .. but I'm sure that won't make you sad!

    Some people just don't and never will get it - that's their loss and our gain.
  • I found it amusing she mentioned religion... because it had not a damn thing to do with anything. I also have a hard time taking anyone that doesn't bother to capitalize their sentences seriously.

    Love the "crazy bitch" tags, and got more than a chuckle out of the "killing her with kindness" bit.
  • Love it! If people are going to be offended, they should either: 1.) Be a member of the group you're supposed to be offending OR 2.) Have some kind of logic, reason, or facts to back up their being offended. Sadly, this girl does not qualify. Back to the end of the line, and please wait until he becomes sexist before piping up again. Thanks.

    And I'm glad you had such a pleasant hate mail, it must have brightened up your day! In fact, that should make her even more angry...
  • Explaining the joke takes all the fun out of it, doesn't everyone know that??
  • "comment love"

    Good stuff btw.
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